alistair Don’t know what classification it comes under but the AVH remix of professional widow is still one of the great crossover remixes

It just sounds like funky house really. It has a standard 4/4 beat and a french house/Subliminal-esque disco bassline.

It certainly isn’t UK Garage.

      hugopal Armand van Helden’s remixes of Spin Spin Sugar and Professional Widow were widely regarded as the pioneering Speed Garage tracks.

          bosstrabs Can you imagine the scones if me, Smalls and Alistair met up for a UKG rewind, head to toe in Moschino, suaving the treacles and swigging Bollinger straight from the jeroboams? While taunting Zackster in his Phila jersey and Starter Cap via Zoom from the VIP area?

          Off the chain doesn’t even describe it.

          “Off the chain”?

          Goldie lookin chain more like!

            bosstrabs Armand van Helden’s remixes of Spin Spin Sugar and Professional Widow were widely regarded as the pioneering Speed Garage tracks.

            Spin Spin Sugar is noticeably Speed Garage sounding.

            I can accept people calling Professional Widow Speed Garage as well, but regardless of what it turned in to it still just sounds like a regular funky house track more than a speed garage tune, even if it was influential. I think they get a bit lazily lumped together both being massive tunes made by AVH, even though they’re not that similar.

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              Cankles-McJeggings ok mate but breeder - the chain is best peak time ball wrecking power prog with all those pyrotechnics explosion sounds and all the stereo panning, until that supersaw synth comes in. Then loses all credibility and becomes posh mans version of paul van dyk.

                This was van Helden’s best track, what an absolute banger on a decent system

                Saw AVH at Printworks a few years ago.

                Absolutely horrific.

                  A legendary producer. Not really a stellar DJ. Saw him at GodsKitchen, he pretty much cleared the dancefloor.

                  Smallman1 were you there to see him, or did he just also happen to be on the bill? Not sure why you’d really go see him nowadays.

                      You do realise you are arguing over which pile of shite smells the most like shite.

                        Sean wouldn’t understand, being from somewhere about as ‘urban’ as Jacob Rees-Mogg

                          seanc80 You do realise you are arguing over which pile of shite smells the most like shite.

                          I’m more arguing that pretty much the only good tunes mentioned in this thread don’t “smell” like the pile of shite which was UK Garage (because they weren’t UK Garage).

                          Apart from a few oddballs most in this thread appear to have come to the logical consensus that actual UK Garage was crap.

                              You are wasting your time Dave. But more importantly you are wasting mine.

                                bosstrabs Sean wouldn’t understand, being from somewhere about as ‘urban’ as Jacob Rees-Mogg

                                I’m probably from the most urban London locale in this thread and will confirm that pretty much the only people who listened to UK Garage were chavs, or people who weren’t actually chavs but for some weird reason wished to imitate them.

                                    hugopal It’s really like judging trance on Gouryella and System F, though, some of the shite people listen to to decide UK Garage is crap.