bosstrabs Armand van Helden’s remixes of Spin Spin Sugar and Professional Widow were widely regarded as the pioneering Speed Garage tracks.

Spin Spin Sugar is noticeably Speed Garage sounding.

I can accept people calling Professional Widow Speed Garage as well, but regardless of what it turned in to it still just sounds like a regular funky house track more than a speed garage tune, even if it was influential. I think they get a bit lazily lumped together both being massive tunes made by AVH, even though they’re not that similar.

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Cankles-McJeggings ok mate but breeder - the chain is best peak time ball wrecking power prog with all those pyrotechnics explosion sounds and all the stereo panning, until that supersaw synth comes in. Then loses all credibility and becomes posh mans version of paul van dyk.

This was van Helden’s best track, what an absolute banger on a decent system

Saw AVH at Printworks a few years ago.

Absolutely horrific.

    A legendary producer. Not really a stellar DJ. Saw him at GodsKitchen, he pretty much cleared the dancefloor.

    Smallman1 were you there to see him, or did he just also happen to be on the bill? Not sure why you’d really go see him nowadays.

      You do realise you are arguing over which pile of shite smells the most like shite.

        Sean wouldn’t understand, being from somewhere about as ‘urban’ as Jacob Rees-Mogg

          seanc80 You do realise you are arguing over which pile of shite smells the most like shite.

          I’m more arguing that pretty much the only good tunes mentioned in this thread don’t “smell” like the pile of shite which was UK Garage (because they weren’t UK Garage).

          Apart from a few oddballs most in this thread appear to have come to the logical consensus that actual UK Garage was crap.

            You are wasting your time Dave. But more importantly you are wasting mine.

              bosstrabs Sean wouldn’t understand, being from somewhere about as ‘urban’ as Jacob Rees-Mogg

              I’m probably from the most urban London locale in this thread and will confirm that pretty much the only people who listened to UK Garage were chavs, or people who weren’t actually chavs but for some weird reason wished to imitate them.

                hugopal It’s really like judging trance on Gouryella and System F, though, some of the shite people listen to to decide UK Garage is crap.

                  seanc80 You are wasting your time Dave. But more importantly you are wasting mine.

                  That’s the cheugiest thing I’ve ever read on here. Do you have Etsy cushions with that stitched on?

                  bosstrabs It’s really like judging trance on Gouryella and System F, though, some of the shite people listen to to decide UK Garage is crap.

                  Hmm, so what’s the “good” UK Garage then? Cos the only decent tunes people have mentioned were Speed Garage.

                  I was in secondary school when UK Garage was getting big and remember it blasting out of some kids’ speakers and sometimes getting put on at house parties etc. Don’t recall any of it not being gash.

                    Smallman1 Mr Tooting disagrees.

                    You live there now, but as you’ve mentioned in this thread you appear to have been in Kingston when UK Garage was a thing.

                    hugopal Hmm, so what’s the “good” UK Garage then?

                    From back in the day: