Not forgetting the Cambridge professor Gopal’s tweets, etc.
That’s before one even gets in to the debate about whether anti-semitism (such as Wiley’s above) should be deemed a type of racism or not.
Anyway, the ZDF tweet claims that any instances of what would be rightly defined as ‘racism’ can actually only be called ‘discrimination’ if it’s against a white person, i.e. not only does it not exist, but it’s impossible.
Sounds a complete bellend.
Correct.
His music is dreadful too.
Saying that it’s impossible to be racist against white people is borne by the notion that it’s impossible to hate white people.
So he’s saying it’s possible to hate all people apart from whites, because they’re not hate-worthy.
Racist logic imo.
As for Jo Wiley, I truly cannot believe she’s thrown away her legacy like this, very sad to see. Clearly we all have good days and bad days with these unprecedented times but someone needs to throw an arm around Jo and help her get better.
Has any white person on this board been subjected to racism?
Shut up you honky
Along_the_Wire constantly. my wife’s brothers are always commenting on my complete lack of rhythm on the dancefloor.
C_J Saying that it’s impossible to be racist against white people is borne by the notion that it’s impossible to hate white people.
So he’s saying it’s possible to hate all people apart from whites, because they’re not hate-worthy.
Racist logic imo.
Actually, the most common “argument” used to try and claim such a thing is borne of “woke” social “science” circles trying to change the definition of ‘racism’ in recent years - they claim that racism is actually not the most commonly understood definition of prejudice or discrimination based on race, but that this prejudice or discrimination must also be supported by “power structures”. Therefore, because the entire world is supposedly all structurally white and only white people have power, only white people can be racist.
It’s a very convenient attempt to try and get away with making what are clear racist statements (often hate-fuelled), while claiming not to be racist because their newly made-up doublethink version of the word means that they couldn’t possibly be.
Never mind that their desired definition even fails on its own merits given that many black people, including Wiley with his (what were) 500k Twitter followers and decent level of wealth, do indeed have power; or never mind that white people wouldn’t really have much power in, say, Saudi Arabia or China (or even if they found themselves lost on their own in a bad part of Chicago).
Their desired definition also fails on its own merits because even if it did come to be adopted in any widespread way then it would be proof of their own racism - they claim racism should be prejudice based on race plus power supported by structures/institutions. They also claim it is not possible to be racist against white people (or correspondingly as per Wiley’s tweet that black people can’t be racist).
However, firstly claiming it’s impossible to be racist against white people is in itself a comment which is prejudicial based on race. Furthermore, if the definition becomes accepted e.g. included in the dictionary and/or used by the MSM, then they would have demonstrated that they themselves in fact have power and are supported by structures/institutions. Thus, they will instantaneously become ‘racist’ even by their own new definition (and given the extent to which it has already gained ground in some left-leaning institutions this could be argued to have already occurred).
The German ZDF message I posted above echoes this exact same bullshit argument.
Here’s a UK example of the same claim being made (and there are loads more):
https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/09/can-white-people-experience-racism-12340542/
This article points out a few additional ways in which the concept is fundamentally flawed:
https://tsl.news/opinion-no-racism-is-not-prejudice-plus-power/
Hugo could do with a stint on the bants express.
I’ve been called a white mother fucker and the like from moving vehicles a fair few of times. Being 6′5 with Thor-esque hair in Oakland means I do put a bit of a target on my back. I’ll persevere.
Some aren’t too hot to trot with me having a hot Black lady, but that’s their problem.
jonattonyeah have you found life difficult as a result of being white? I’ve had ‘Ginger cunt’ shouted at me 100s of times - that isn’t racism, it’s not something built on centuries of persecution for starters.
Having said all that, I am a ginger cunt.
Along_the_Wire I am a ginger cunt
Collecting ammo for the upcoming live stream.
I get called a good looking bastard all the time.
The persecution is real.
Along_the_Wire And you had a go at me for being ginger lol
Hursty No I haven’t.
Along_the_Wire i think that falls under the “it can’t be racist if it’s true” category. 
Along_the_Wire that isn’t racism, it’s not something built on centuries of persecution for starters.
Yeah I know. I was just joking around, really. And I am a mother fucker so no harm no foul
Along_the_Wire Having said all that, I am a ginger cunt.
In the USA Thread you told me:
“stop being a boring fucking cunt”
You also said that:
“This isn’t just about shooting anyway. This kicked off because some cunt knelt on a black man’s neck and killed him.”
By now happily acknowledging yourself to be a “cunt”, what aspect of your own behaviour are you admitting to?
Jesus, Hugo, can’t believe you spent the time to write that.
A couple of mates and I were subjected to some vicious racism/prejudice/harassment in Stansted on the way back to Dublin in ’99 after spending New Years in London. In retrospect it was fucking hilarious as they called all 3 of us Paddy but they didn’t find any bombs in our bags luckily enough. We were buckled after 4 days of all nighters and only spoke about it a week later. We all settled on the fact they were a bunch of small minded bigots and brushed it under the carpet. What else is there to do.
I had to call out some racism earlier.
Beggars belief that anyone actually judges anyone by the colour of their skin or where they’re from.
It’s beyond ignorant and small minded.
hugopal I’m having a laugh, I don’t really think I’m a cunt. I’m not really even that ginger any more either.
You, however…
I’d describe Hugo as painfully dull.
Did anyone see the Rodney P’s Jazz Funk doc on BBC4 last night? Eye opening for someone like me who knew little about its origins. Some great music
Watching the news you’d never guess this, but riots get more clicks than peaceful protests.
”Our data suggest that 96.3 percent of events involved no property damage or police injuries, and in 97.7 percent of events, no injuries were reported.”
Props to the driver for kicking them out. Not doing the movement any favours…
…but then neither is this…
https://news.yahoo.com/blm-transferred-millions-canadian-charity-001750444.html
hugopal Similarly
Racism: The marginalization and/or oppression of people of color based on a socially constructed racial hierarchy that privileges white people.
It gets better as you read.
What’s the point here?
Discrediting BLM? Hugo is gonna have a wank shortly
Along_the_Wire In that case, it’s 100% not about discrediting BLM. FAKE NEWS!
Isn’t that like 4 years old?
jonattonyeah Almost. It’s on the social media merry-go-round at the moment.
BlainSA Similarly
https://www.adl.org/racismRacism: The marginalization and/or oppression of people of color based on a socially constructed racial hierarchy that privileges white people.
It gets better as you read.
That ADL page is absolutely baffling.
I wouldn’t have bothered replying though but your timing is quite extraordinary given that this article just appeared today, with Whoopi Goldberg being forced to apologise after facing criticism from the likes of the ADL for comments she made on her show ‘The View’ on ABC. Quotes from the article:
"In the original discussion, Goldberg said: “Let’s be truthful, the Holocaust isn’t about race, it’s not.”
“It’s about man’s inhumanity to man, that’s what it’s about. These are two groups of white people.”"
"Responding to her comments Mr Greenblatt, the ADL’s chief executive, said: “No Whoopi Goldberg…(the Nazis) dehumanized them and used this racist propaganda to justify slaughtering 6 million Jews.”"
So on the ADL’s own website it claims racism is “oppression of people of color”, while the ADL’s own chief exec is pointing out that the Holocaust was “racist”.
So is the ADL trying to claim Jews are “people of color”, or are they more likely tying themselves in knots trying to appear politically correct and appease social justice warrior people of color - including those who it turns out wish to downplay the historic oppression faced by Jews and undermine the very cause which the ADL is supposed to stand for?!
Truly bizarre.
The ADL’s definition of racism does make some sense here in the States, but runs into that issue of them thinking everything in the world is America-centric. As if this place is indicitive of everywhere else.
But it’s like oh cool so you’re not racist being Black and hating Asian people, given that defintion, you’re just bigoted. Is that considered some sort of win? Congrats, I guess?
