Election 2024: The Fate of Democracy

mono-stereo

Barack trying to explain GU 002 there.

Old-Dutch

RFK with the truth bombs:

hugopal

Old-Dutch with the copying of Putin’s talking points?

I don’t see how any of that really explains or justifies why Russia had to invade.

He also calls the UK “England” and repeatedly says Tony Blair was doing things when he hadn’t been PM for a decade and it was actually Boris Johnson. He sounds like he’s rivalling Biden for dementia in more ways than one.

(As an extra note, him stating that everything supposedly began in 2014 it’s also overlooking that Yanukovych had been clamping down on political opposition and was hugely corrupt before he was ousted)

zackster

Old-Dutch he’s an absolute moron who flew with Jeff Epstein multiple times.

ehitach2

Old-Dutch

Why would you consider anything anyone says on social media as true?

hugopal

zackster he’s an absolute moron who flew with Jeff Epstein multiple times

but enough about Dutchy

ehitach2

Trump really is a petulant overgrown man baby. Incredibly stupid, incredibly dangerous.

I can just see a head of state saying “Will you pwease pwotect us, Mr Pwesident, Putin is bad man”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/11/donald-trump-says-he-would-encourage-russia-to-attack-nato-countries-who-dont-pay-bills

On Saturday, Trump claimed that during an unspecified Nato meeting he told a fellow head of state that the US under his leadership would not defend any countries who were “delinquent”.

“One of the presidents of a big country stood up and said, ‘Well, sir, if we don’t pay, and we’re attacked by Russia, will you protect us?’” Trump said, adding “I said, ‘You didn’t pay, you’re delinquent?

“No, I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. You got to pay. You got to pay your bills."

RichM

ehitach2 clearly the way he says these things are dangerous and stupid, but he does have a point in there. He has always said NATO countries need to pay their way, and I agree with that. Maybe some countries need the threat by Trump to do something

whatever

Homegrove

US media must’ve made a shit ton of money from the Trump outrage of 2016-2020 to be this desperate for him to win.

zackster

Homegrove idk how anyone can take the Times seriously after all of the blatant lies the published for Israel

Mad_Cyril

RichM
A classic case of picking out the sensational bits and leaving them dangling for the chimps to feed on.

He’s still a massive cunt though, Don that is!

ehitach2

RichM

NATO doesn’t have bills though and the defence expenditure amounts are a percentage guideline against GDP, or something like that. It’s not like USA is somehow ’paying it’s way’ with more into the NATO kitty, it just spends more on military than most other members as a percentage of GDP. That’s my understanding.

Anyway, it’s a military alliance which provides it’s own strengths and Trump is just completely and publicly undermining it. I mean he could have said he is totally committed to it and would absolutely stand by it’s alliance members under any threat.

Presumably he could ask others to work in the background to try and raise other states defence spending if that’s a problem. They’ll likely have to do that anyway, if they’ve any sense and cash to do so. This is because of Putin’s actions and not Trumps. Trump is just doing Putin’s work for him by undermining NATO, the stupid bellend.

Anyway, it’s exhausting and I didn’t like having to type ‘members’ even once.

RichM

Mad_Cyril 100% agree on him being a massive cunt

RichM

ehitach2 I believe it was agreed that NATO members should contribute 2% of GDP, and a fair few countries are way below that. Hence why Trump hasn’t been happy with countries relying on the US spending.

Mad_Cyril

ehitach2 I didn’t like having to type ‘members’ even once.

Some sort of suppressed trauma?

zackster

Why does NATO still exist? The USSR is no more.

ehitach2

zackster Why does NATO still exist? The USSR is no more. It should be dissolved immediately

Why does Cankings still take his anti-psychotic meds? His murderous thoughts are no more. He should stop immediately.

Homegrove

zackster speaking as someone who’s country has a border as long as the country is with Russia we need NATO.

hugopal

zackster Why does NATO still exist? The USSR is no more. It should be dissolved immediately.

ehitach2 On reflection, it’s a fundamental flaw in my analogy in response to your daft question around the existence of NATO. Soz

Aside from that it was a decent analogy by ehitach.

When you have Russia running amok in Ukraine in part because there’s a chance that they’d have joined NATO, it’s not a stretch to imagine that Russia would also murderously attack the rest of Europe with the hope of regaining more territory/re-establishing the USSR/ or just being destructive douchebags were it not for the continued presence of NATO keeping them at bay (similar to how Cankles without his meds would likely go back to carrying out more hammerings).

ehitach2

Mad_Cyril

I suddenly remembered how my old percussion teacher used to toss me off in time to the metronome. Might explain why I’ve tended to go for higher bpms in my music choices.

Mad_Cyril

ehitach2
Sounds dece to be fair

zackster

ehitach2 how do you know he is taking his meds?

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