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Smallman1 Beigels are the ancestors of bagels Derm.
They are not ‘the ancestors’. ‘Beigel’ is just an alternative romanisation/transliteration of the Yiddish בײגל.
Have I taught you absolutely fucking nothing when going on about Hanyu Pinyin vs. Wade Giles romanisation of Chinese characters? It’s like Sichuan vs. Szechuan.