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Dubman back pain is awful, especially with everything else on top of that. hope you’re doing better soon.

      303abuser
      The back pain although bad was not a patch compared to the pain of Shingles.

          Dubman i didn’t realize shingles were that bad, sorry to hear that.

            Back pains are shite… my last one last a few months - was so difficult to shake off

            On Magnesium Citrate I’ve been taking these:

            https://www.hollandandbarrett.com/shop/product/solgar-magnesium-citrate-tablets-60001409?skuid=005646&utm_campaign=shopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-8rY2vP59QIV2OvtCh0kvADfEAQYASABEgKpBfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

            The recommended dose is 2 × 200mg tablets per day (which is the RDA)… I found though I was feeling tired during the day, so moved down to one tablet (200mg) a day and feel much better, and am sleeping well… Pretty impressed - I’m sleeping 30-45 mins a night more on average, which makes a big difference. Still have the occasional blip if something stressful going on, but definitely a big improvement

              magnesium is good stuff, glad it’s helping you sleep.

              303abuser can’t do running anymore, a bit too paranoid about my knees. Badminton has been keeping my heart rate up, enjoying that. Nice calming 3km walk to cool down after.

                  Jules72 oh that great news brother, glad it’s working out. I tried two in a night one time as well, same thing happened. got quite wonky the next day. It wasn’t melatonin wonky but enough to just keep it at one a night. I’m almost done with the citrate versions, gonna try the ones 303 recommended next.

                      rhouses Get on the elliptical to save the joints. Also good for a house and techno rhythm

                          rhouses i hear you about the knees. you can always try running up a small hill too. sprint up, walk down, it’s way easier on the knees. i find stairs are easier on my knees too, so that might be an option.

                            rhouses sorry Rhouses what magnesium tablets are those that 303 uses? And why are they better? It’s weird how I felt so tired the next day - I researched the side effects and couldn’t find any reference to this one

                                Jules72 i use bisglycinate instead of citrate because it’s easier on the stomach. i’m not sure there are any other tangible differences.

                                    Jules72 easier on the stomach but also more effective for sleep, going by a couple of links I read. Worth a shot I guess.

                                      BlainSA yup, been thinking about getting one. Put in an hour while I watch TV.

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                                        i’ve been using a garmin vivoactive 4 for about a week now and i have to say i’m pretty impressed with it. tracking seems pretty consistent and at least relatively accurate for things like pulse ox, vo2 max, and sleep cycles. the body battery thing correlates pretty well with my overall energy too.

                                        after doing nothing for 2 months, i’m starting to run again. did 2 km last thursday, adding 1 km/day to 5 now. i’m trying out this built in trainer thing to do half marathon training. it seems a touch aggressive, but i’m aiming for an hour 45 by mid july. don’t think i’ll actually run a race, just want to see if i can do it or not.

                                          Christian lol i had 3 drinks on saturday and even that had more impact than i thought it would. i’m into stats and tracking, so this is good motivation for me.

                                            303abuser nice one mate!

                                            I’m back at baseline. When I last started like you did, I hoyed trainers on out of bed in the morning and ran for 4 lamp posts, walked for 2. Did that for 5 minutes week 1, 10 mins week 2, within about a month I was able to do a 35 minute 5k with my local Parkrun. Which isn’t fast, but I would have laughed at anyone suggesting this beforehand. Keep it up!

                                                NasserAlazzawi good for you, starting out again sucks haha. i was running 4:45 kms in december (for up to an hour), so i’m hoping it comes back quickly. i quit after 2 km thursday because my lungs were on fire and i was coughing like crazy (it was -17, so that didn’t help anything either). my 5 km today wasn’t nearly so bad. i’m terrified of the first day i try hill sprints again though. 🤣