Nina Kraviz

jonattonyeah That list of theirs was incredibly stale and predictable with many names nobody under the age of 40 gives a single shit about.

It’s hard to tell - look now at the DJ Mag + Beatport ‘Alternative Top 100’ DJ Chart; it’s probably not a million miles away from what the RA poll would look like now if it still existed. There are a fair few recent names, some which seem understandable, others which seem confusing.

There are still a fair few olderish names riding high in DJ Mag’s list who were also regularly near the top of the DJ Mag one, eg, Beyer, Solomun, Villalobos, Cox, Maceo Plex, but not a vast amount and they’re all likely to still have decent sized audiences. Kraviz was also starting to rise up the poll, and someone like Amelie Lens who has only really arrived recently would have also probably made significant inroads naturally as well.

The likes of Sasha and Diggers are and were making it on to those lists, but have been towards the back end as of the last decade and in danger of slipping off, which again seems understandable given they’re still vaguely popular and relevant but their stars are def significantly on the wane.

jonattonyeah But they swung the pendulum too far in the other direction, seemingly forgetting where they came from. Whether they like it or not, they’re simply alienating their core readers while not being relevant enough to younger people to make their pandering worth it.

This is correct to some degree, but as per my post above they don’t care and have little need to care. Online journalism won’t be much of a money spinner. The vast, vast majority of their money will come from ticket sales. So the staff can basically use the journalism side of things to preach to the readership in line with their own grievance politics, rather than consider the readership’s actual thoughts and preferences.

Homegrove it was founded in 2001 - and prog still ruled the roost in clubland then and so unsurprisingly dominated their pages; especially as they started off purely as a news and information site reliant on readership. Can’t remember if it had a standalone forum or not, but it definitely had a very active comments section for each article.

The ticket side of things didn’t launch until 2008 and as it took over the focus and quality of its journalism subsequently declined.

jonattonyeah You know what the best selling event in SF is next week? Maceo Plex. The divide between the drivel they write about and how they pay the bills couldn’t be any wider.

exactly. And they hate it.

LT42 Ironically, when Hugo used to bang on pretentiously about obscure Techno artists nobody ever heard of from Berlin, I used to think he was a nailed on RA subscriber.

When you are/were in the thick of it there’s no need to rely on RA’s propaganda to know what’s really up.

Firstly RA heavily tried to promote minimal (like if you not a minimal, then you get completely ignored). Then Innervisions probably paid them a lot to make their label a frontrunner, never thought their music was any better than making beatport top 100. Then it was tropical house for a little bit, you know where Peggy Gou and Palms Trax got promoted a lot, as well as Drumcode techno tends to become a new Tomorrowland for lazy fans that want their own stars but don’t wanna hear Big Room trash. Now RA trying to wear nerdy glasses and promote Hyperdub and pretencious chaotic echo sounds over random ambient (while also making it clear that their podcasts is 90% black women or transgenders). Forgot a small period of Durban sound movement for a couple years.

RA was a left wing liberal joke since 2008 they never really were a statement by themselves.
But RA was good at making a system with selling/buying tickets all over the world and helping clubs, I give them props where needed

nicksneddon it is truth. would you like to refute hard science? are you evangelical young earth creationist like the kent hovend in united states?

Haha imagine learning you’d been anonymously left a record collection only to find out it was zackster’s

hugopal Anfisa is way more trash than Nina - they shouldn’t be lumped together.

Who’s the tallest dwarf?