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Millsy he wants in on one of Don’s McDonalds parties

These over-simplified takes are as annoying as the campaigns that were run. No mention at all about foreign interference and how it influences voters. No its just as simple as “they were lookıng for a HERO” and Kamala “didn’t speak to the them.” Or the fact that a couple hundred million didn’t even vote.
The elephant in the room is not how tired and disenfranchised voters felt, it’s how voters can vote for a convicted fraudster, an adjudicated rapist, and a guy who almost caused the burning down of the Capitol instead of a person whose laugh they didn’t like. I haven’t seen anyone try and explain that. Is it something to do with people’s fascination and worship with tv stars? The lack of critical thinking? What exactly causes people to vote against their interests time and time again? Its a little disingenuous to say these people are voting cognizantly because 99% of them have no idea how economics or policies work anyway.

    LT42

    I think populism is a big factor in it, as is also the case in the UK.

    Trump’s shrewdness was in identifying large swathes of the electorate in poor areas where industries had declined and unemployment was high. He tuned into the increasing sense of dislocation they felt and presented ‘simple’ solutions to complex problems and directed them to blame the ‘metropolitan elite’. When so many of those people lack the education and ability to think critically, and the Democrats are unable to present a coherent alternative, his cult status continued to grow even though he is the antithesis of what they think they want.

    Same happened with Johnson whereby voters fed a diet of social media and entertainment said the thing they liked was his charisma, ignoring competence, integrity and leadership.

      whatever yep, and we will do it all again in the next election when farage either becomes the opposition or, heaven forbid, becomes PM.

      • Amps replied to this.

        Millsy becomes PM

        Would genuinely consider moving abroad.

        VR46 the dialogue will be one sided, with Trump doing the listening

        Notice Russian state media broadcasting naked pictures of Melania, nothing says “I own you” like broadcasting pictures of your oppos naked Mrs

          Rather his Mrs than him I suppose.

          • erik replied to this.

            erik
            I saw that over the weekend. To me it’s just says fuck you Donald we will do what we like.
            Was surprised I only saw it online and not on any News channels

            • erik replied to this.

              Dubman exactly. It’s well known that Russia has Kompromat on him, but that was a proper fuck you

                Trump prob won’t be doing a Willy Smith then with regards to MC Putin.. lol

                erik And? He’s a convicted felon and won a landslide 😂

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                  erik Kompromat

                  Have we done the ‘great label’ gag yet?

                  Fairly sure we have.

                    alistair there’s a sentence that should set alarms bells ringing and doesn’t

                      erik I doubt it would even figure in the top 10 list of voters concerns.

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