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  • Election 2024: The Fate of Democracy

deadhead The Democratic Party certainly spends a lot of money on elections for not caring about winning any of them…

It’s almost bizarre thinking about it from that perspective. There’s no way that I understand better than the machine how these elections are going to turn out, but somehow that’s how it appears. It leads me to believe that they’re all making so much money from both the political grift and the cushy private industry jobs they get after leaving office, that they really don’t care which side of the fence they end up on. It’s all been completely corrupted and both parties are owned by corporations and their lobbiests.

    alistair Sure it is. The extremes on both sides have moved so far out that they’re not relatable to most people.

      Libs out protesting in Philadephia and Chicago, bit anti democratic and hypocritical to say the least.

        VR46 hmmm hardly jan 6, but I get the point

        • LT42 replied to this.

            Millsy lol, objective reality is up for debate these days

              Not even in office yet and putin is ready for dialogue, wtf we’re Kamala and Biden doing.

              • erik replied to this.

                Yeah I wonder why he’s up for that? Hmmmmm

                  Millsy he wants in on one of Don’s McDonalds parties

                    These over-simplified takes are as annoying as the campaigns that were run. No mention at all about foreign interference and how it influences voters. No its just as simple as “they were lookıng for a HERO” and Kamala “didn’t speak to the them.” Or the fact that a couple hundred million didn’t even vote.
                    The elephant in the room is not how tired and disenfranchised voters felt, it’s how voters can vote for a convicted fraudster, an adjudicated rapist, and a guy who almost caused the burning down of the Capitol instead of a person whose laugh they didn’t like. I haven’t seen anyone try and explain that. Is it something to do with people’s fascination and worship with tv stars? The lack of critical thinking? What exactly causes people to vote against their interests time and time again? Its a little disingenuous to say these people are voting cognizantly because 99% of them have no idea how economics or policies work anyway.

                      LT42

                      I think populism is a big factor in it, as is also the case in the UK.

                      Trump’s shrewdness was in identifying large swathes of the electorate in poor areas where industries had declined and unemployment was high. He tuned into the increasing sense of dislocation they felt and presented ‘simple’ solutions to complex problems and directed them to blame the ‘metropolitan elite’. When so many of those people lack the education and ability to think critically, and the Democrats are unable to present a coherent alternative, his cult status continued to grow even though he is the antithesis of what they think they want.

                      Same happened with Johnson whereby voters fed a diet of social media and entertainment said the thing they liked was his charisma, ignoring competence, integrity and leadership.

                          whatever yep, and we will do it all again in the next election when farage either becomes the opposition or, heaven forbid, becomes PM.

                          • Amps replied to this.

                              Millsy becomes PM

                              Would genuinely consider moving abroad.

                                VR46 the dialogue will be one sided, with Trump doing the listening

                                Notice Russian state media broadcasting naked pictures of Melania, nothing says “I own you” like broadcasting pictures of your oppos naked Mrs

                                    Rather his Mrs than him I suppose.

                                    • erik replied to this.

                                      erik
                                      I saw that over the weekend. To me it’s just says fuck you Donald we will do what we like.
                                      Was surprised I only saw it online and not on any News channels

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