Election 2024: The Fate of Democracy

hugopal We’ve better sense than your parents clearly.

Finland’s been one of the best decarbonizers in the world, yet we also have very cheap energy. Weird, huh?

RichM The high cost of energy isn’t just bad for consumers and energy security, it’s bad for the economy. It’s a positive deterrent to manufacturers setting up business here as opposed to elsewhere. Electricity isn’t a luxury like cars or clothes. It’s half the price in France but they weren’t stupid in enough to turn their back on nuclear. Our energy policy and obsession with net zero is nuts. We contribute 1% to global emissions for fucks sake.

alistair French electricity is state owned and subsidised. You wouldn’t want that, surely? Businesses need to make a profit, right?

alistair We contribute 1% to global emissions for fucks sake.

And what about our responsibility to emissions from China and other manufacturing nations where we have goods made?

alistair so what you are saying is fuck the planet because it’s too expensive to try and preserve it. Seems very short sighted to me. Sometimes you have to pay to do the right thing.

alistair fair point, it won’t help the planet. Maybe if they encourage cheaper fees for airlines at the 3rd runway for airplanes which are more environmentally friendly that may be a good start.

I see Trump has given Starmer some praise, saying he is doing a good job. That will be pissing off Farage and Musk, which is nice

Apparently his call with the Danish PM went as you would expect. A new age of American imperialism it is then. Great.

Millsy
All that power has gone to his head. He going to be far worse than last time. Its frightening.

Dubman yep. Looks like it. Greatest country in the world though, so we are all blessed

Dubman This is what happens when the Supreme Court decides that consequences don’t apply to you. He doesn’t need to get re-elected, it’s going to be drastically different this time.

What did he accomplish in from 2016-2020? Almost nothing because of the infighting and general incompetence. This time, he’s got project 2025 directing him, which is why we’ve seen the flurry of executive orders already. He’s not smart enough or capable of the planning that something like this takes to be effective.

If we didn’t live next door and have to deal with the immediate fallout, I’d actually enjoy watching him burn everything down.

303abuser
He’s begging you to become part of America so you can enjoy Private health care insurance.

Dubman I think there’d be more Canadians willing to sign up for the war of 1812 part 2 than he realizes.

303abuser
It’s the arrogance of Trump which makes him so dangerous.
Don’t forget the tariffs coming your way in February.